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    Just announced.... £25 daily charge for large engined cars like 4x4 and sports cars.

    Drive a Ferrari into central London and it's £25.


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    Cr%p is it based on engine size or description like 4x4 or sportcars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelis View Post
    Just announced.... £25 daily charge for large engined cars like 4x4 and sports cars.

    Drive a Ferrari into central London and it's £25.

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    Once the Co2 is in the air,no amount of money will take it out.Another kin tax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelis View Post
    Just announced.... £25 daily charge for large engined cars like 4x4 and sports cars.

    Drive a Ferrari into central London and it's £25.

    To be fair even a Ford Mondeo is going to cost £25
    As ever with Ken though the Press Statement doesn't mention the really controversial bit where owners of class G cars will no longer get the 90% residents discount

    If I still lived in Chelsea and had to pay £25/day to get my kids to school (because there is no public transport) I would be really pissed off

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    I heard Boris Johnson on the radio yesterday. According to him, the emmisons of 4x4 and sportscars equals 1 hour of flights at heathrow airport.

    This country is going down fast. No wonder most of us want to get the ***** out of here!!!

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    Heard that on the wireless too.... will it be based on engine size or which "category" a vehicle falls into?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenyon View Post
    Cr%p is it based on engine size or description like 4x4 or sportcars.
    It's based on emmissions. They did quote some figure on the news but I forget what it was. They said 4x4s, sports cars and the like would end up having to pay the extra charge

    Doesn't affect me as I always make it a rule to drive AWAY from, or around, London

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmdferrari View Post
    Heard that on the wireless too.... will it be based on engine size or which "category" a vehicle falls into?
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cong...ging/7394.aspx

    Chack your Ferrari emissions here :-

    http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/search.asp

    EDIT - Sorry only lists 430, 612 and 599

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmdferrari View Post
    Heard that on the wireless too.... will it be based on engine size or which "category" a vehicle falls into?
    This is what tfl have said:

    Press Release
    Mayor gives green light to C02 charge to tackle climate change
    12-2-2008***091
    Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, today gave the green light to the world's most ambitious scheme to reduce the contribution of urban traffic to the greenhouse gas emissions which cause global warming.
    The Mayor of London today approved the scheme which is the latest plank of London's environment programme, announcing that from 27 October cars with the highest greenhouse gas emissions, such as some so-called 'Chelsea tractors', high powered sports cars and luxury vehicles (Band G vehicles), will pay a daily charge of £25 to drive in the central London Congestion Charge Zone.
    Cars with the lowest CO2 emissions (Bands A and B) will receive a 100 per cent discount encouraging people to use less polluting cars in central London.
    The scheme is a key part of the Mayor's Climate Change Action Plan, which aims to reduce London's C02 emissions by 60 per cent by 2025.
    The move follows the introduction of the ground breaking central London congestion charging scheme in 2003 and the transformation of the whole of greater London into a clean air Low Emission Zone at the beginning of this month.
    The highest CO2 emitting cars, which will be charged £25 to drive in the zone are those in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) Band G and equivalent (including cars registered pre 2001 with engines over 3,000 cc). These are the vehicles that emit over 225g of C02 per kilometre.
    The lowest CO2 emitting cars are those in VED Bands A and B. These vehicles emit less than 120g of C02 per kilometre. Where these vehicles also meet the strict Euro 4 air pollution emission standard they will become exempt from the daily charge.
    Of those cars currently driven in the Congestion Charge zone, 17 per cent are Band G and would be liable for the £25 charge, and just two per cent are Bands A and B which would qualify for the 100 per cent discount.
    The Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, said:
    "Nobody needs to damage the environment by driving a gas guzzling Chelsea Tractor in central London. The CO2 emissions from the most high powered 4x4s and sports cars can be up to four times as great of those of the least polluting cars. The CO2 charge will encourage people to switch to cleaner vehicles or public transport and ensure that those who choose to carry on driving the most polluting vehicles help pay for the environmental damage they cause. This is the "polluter pays" principle. At the same time, the 100 per cent discount we are introducing for the lowest CO2 emitting vehicles will give drivers in London an incentive to use the least polluting cars available.
    "I believe that this ground breaking initiative will have an impact throughout the world with other cities following suit as they step up their efforts to halt the slide towards catastrophic climate change. I think this scheme will also start a cultural revolution whereby drivers in every city in Britain start to think about the impact on the environment of their choice of car and how they plan their journeys.
    "We will be closely monitoring this scheme to ensure that goal of reducing traffic congestion in central London remains a central priority."
    The Mayor has made clear that the new scheme is flexible and that both the charges and exemptions may be varied in the future to ensure that the twin goals of tackling traffic congestion and combating climate change are both achieved.
    London’s Transport Commissioner, Peter Hendy, said:
    "The Congestion Charge has been successful at cutting both traffic and congestion and vehicle emissions in central London. Thanks to the charge there are more people using public transport and cycling, plus road safety has improved. But we need to take even more steps to cut CO2 from transport and the CO2 Charge will encourage drivers to change their behaviour and change their vehicle choice in the future.”
    Friends of the Earth Director, Tony Juniper, said:
    "Road traffic is one of the biggest contributors to climate change. Measures that get people to choose greener cars, as well as to drive less, are urgently needed. Charging gas-guzzling vehicles more to drive in central London is extremely welcome and supported by most Londoners. We are delighted that Mr Livingstone is taking a lead on this issue.”
    There will be no change to the size of the central London Congestion Charge zone.
    ENDS


    Wonder if I should drive the Lamborghini along the road to Westminster Square to see if I can get it on the lunchtime news

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    http://uk.reuters.com/article/domest...26578320080212

    The 25 pound daily tax on vehicles in central London's Congestion Charge zone emitting 225 grammes of carbon dioxide per kilometre would apply in the same way as the normal eight pounds daily charge does to all but the cleanest cars.

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