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    Default Average failure rates and fix costs ?

    Looking at other forums this seems to be one sticky thread collection that could be really used on here.

    For the older cars it would be be useful to have a top 20 list of items that faiil, the
    mileage rates and fixes either OEM or otherwise...

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    Just look at Hills catalogue - these will be the bits that wear out

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    Quote Originally Posted by sssdu01 View Post
    Just look at Hills catalogue - these will be the bits that wear out
    Good example. I am looking at hills ball joints at the moment and I cannot discern any advantage over stock items. As an engineer my next step would be to find out which has the superior record for longevity. My local techs say neither they each last around three / four years.

    Tie rods are a good example of the hills pieces being superior but again without longevity data I can't assess accurately the likely costs of ownership.

    Our marque has a reputation for owners with Rosso tinted glasses, this kind of data would help us and prospective owners understand the realities of the ownership experience.

    Agree they should be model specific threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    Good example. I am looking at hills ball joints at the moment and I cannot discern any advantage over stock items.
    One is plated steel that corrodes and the other a stainless item? Both are wear items on the 360/F430 of course but I was led to believe Hills are a big step forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyodo View Post
    One is plated steel that corrodes and the other a stainless item? Both are wear items on the 360/F430 of course but I was led to believe Hills are a big step forward.
    This was my understanding also

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    Good idea.

    Hills must last longer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyodo View Post
    One is plated steel that corrodes and the other a stainless item? Both are wear items on the 360/F430 of course but I was led to believe Hills are a big step forward.
    Not necessarily. Austenitic stainless steel is soft. Carbon steel can be heat treated and then plated with chrome which can be very hard, which is why hydraulic rams are mostly made of carbon steel not stainless. That said , its an engineering truism, that when two bits rub together its usually the hard that wears not the soft. So as Modificato says, whats needed is some data.

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    A good idea, but we'd need to watch how we implement it. At the moment, without model-specific sections, it might not be so easy to keep it organised and in order.

    Definitely food for thought though

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    Quote Originally Posted by mon the fish View Post
    A good idea, but we'd need to watch how we implement it. At the moment, without model-specific sections, it might not be so easy to keep it organised and in order.

    Definitely food for thought though

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    +1 Good idea, mod

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