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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Blanchard View Post
    So I'm guessing that's £800 per hour, plus oil / filter, as it can't take longer than that.
    Itís quite a bit more than that though isnít it?

    Plugging the Diagnostic in and it reading all the codes alone takes half of that.

    Joking aside if you read the service schedule from the workshop manual it has the times for all the operations which should be performed which are quite a bit more than changing the oil and filter.


    You can get an oil and filter change done in any garage for an hours labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    Joking aside if you read the service schedule from the workshop manual it has the times for all the operations which should be performed which are quite a bit more than changing the oil and filter.

    You can get an oil and filter change done in any garage for an hours labour.
    I agree with Mod, I'm not familiar with the service schedules on the newer cars but certainly in my workshop manual there's an extensive list of things that are being checked during the service, I think that's what we're really paying for isn't it? I think pretty much all of us can change the oil and filter ourselves if we want to. I've stood and chatted to the mechanic at my main dealer as he did my annual early on in my ownership (I was invited to) and at least then he went through the list pretty comprehensively. If they don't they can't fill in the 'traffic light' report at the end which I find useful in itself to highlight things I may want to look at myself.

    Regarding the second point I think perhaps we're a bit 'brain washed' in the UK, we'll take even a daily hack to a dealer for a basic service. When I've lived in the States I've seen many people just use outlets like Jiffy Lube for that basic oil and filter change - they'll do it cheaply and quickly while you wait.

    I guess the point is I'm looking for something very different for my high mileage Fabia than I am for the Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post

    Regarding the second point I think perhaps we're a bit 'brain washed' in the UK, we'll take even a daily hack to a dealer for a basic service. When I've lived in the States I've seen many people just use outlets like Jiffy Lube for that basic oil and filter change - they'll do it cheaply and quickly while you wait.
    Use to work in Jiffy lube as a kid. Oil and filter change inside 20 minutes or its free. Certainly at the time the main dealers were renowned for pulling fast ones so few people used them.

    We use to look after a gents old Merc. Use to take a good hour but he was happy to pay as it cost about a tenth of what the main dealer wanted to charge! We use to sit him in a chair, give him a coffee and he had a good laugh at us as we use to regularly spray oil everywhere from a very temperamental oil filter canister o ring! (Odd the things you remember! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    Itís quite a bit more than that though isnít it?

    Plugging the Diagnostic in and it reading all the codes alone takes half of that.

    Joking aside if you read the service schedule from the workshop manual it has the times for all the operations which should be performed which are quite a bit more than changing the oil and filter.


    You can get an oil and filter change done in any garage for an hours labour.
    This. Mine doesnít do the mileage to warrant even just an oil and filter change annually but I want it plugged into the test set (which I donít have and canít justify/afford) and any lurking fault codes addressed as well as a thorough inspection for those things not covered in the MoT. For this Iím quite happy to pay my indi for the Ďminorí service each year as well as any rectification necessary. I then do not need the Ďintermediateí service per se and have the full cam belt service every five years.
    I like red & cream!

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    Going back a few months I had the active suspension error message come up on the cluster. After a bit of diagnostic investigations Sam at Stradale Italia identified it as a temperamental accelerometer. This took a while because initially when the fault codes were assessed all the accelerometers flagged a code at some point, so identifying which one was root cause sensor required all codes to be cleared then just waited for the active suspension error to flag againÖ. then plug in and diagnose the issue. So correct replacement part ordered from Eurospares (£90 ish) and I fitted myself, no programming or diagnostic work required. So all good now on the suspension, happy days!
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    Iíll be assessing the annual health check (for the free breakdown service) soon, some of it was a surprise (brakes that have recently been replaced due example) but most expected like ball joints I was aware of.
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    A long overdue drive around north Wales today, taking in Bala Lake and the Evo (average speed camera) Triangle. The 360 performed faultlessly (save for a moment of a frothy oil filler neck which just settled down after a while), see photosÖ.
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    Normal dipstick (current miles 173,500, last oil change 166k, not topped up in that time, so thatís how much it uses)
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    By the way, the oil level is about 5mm above the min oil level, you canít see the hole due to the oil level (the hole you can see is the max level). Just confirming in case anyone thought I was running massively under the min level!


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    It’s new tyres time again for the 360, this time it’s a full set.
    This will be the first time I’ve changed the fronts so they have done 30,000 miles and the rears I changed 15,000 miles ago, I’m pretty pleased with that

    New rubber will be, Pirelli P-Zero OEM spec F marked tyres, £979 from Pirelli Performance Centre in Burton, but with the Ferrari owners club deal of £100 cashback with 4 tyres bought (£100 pre paid fuel card), that means at £879 that’s only about £30 more than the Camskill price, which of course would be plus the hassle and cost of finding a fitter. With the Pirelli place at least I’m assured of top notch fitting at an overall better than Camskill price. The other main factor is the Pirelli place can guarantee a 2021/2022 date code, whereas with Camskill tyres would have a 3 year old date code (although good customer service to warn me in advance of the date code to let me make an informed choice).

    Before the change of rubber I found time for a quick non stop drive to Tywyn and back, some cracking roads out that way.
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    Not particularly picturesque photos but I was keen to crack on with the B road onslaught
    Cheers, Giles


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    Good to know about the FOC deal, thanks for that. Car's looking good!

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    Be interesting to hear how you get on with the P Zeros; certainly a marmite brand/tyre. I know a few people who love them, personally not so much

    Good to see your still out and putting mileage on that 360

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