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    Default Justa little too close!!!

    Instead of going on a rally for charity today I stayed in bed, foul weather and been too busy lately I was a bit tired. So felt the need to run the car up to temperature, make sure all is ok.

    I had the engine compartment open in anticipation of checking the oil once up to temperature. Started her up no problems, but immediately a very strong smell of fuel. Quick look in the engine compartment and the right hand bank was covered, pissing out towards the exhaust manifold! Quickly switched off, else we were going to have a big bonfire very quickly.

    On closer inspection, the fuel line was frayed. Its routing made it rub against the earth bonding points on the rocker cover. Where the non crown nut is is where the pipe holder was (pic below); and you can see similar on the other side.

    Also looking at the fuel line when I took if of, its partially blocked...poor quality fuel line!!

    I'll get two new ones made up tomorrow at my local motorsport shop at Castle Coombe and fit them. I initially though about ordering from one of the usual places, but these look suspiciously like the image from one of them!

    So a bonfire averted, and hopefully the engine will run better with clear fuel lines! (And there was me thinking this forum was a bit quiet recently!)

    Good job I didn't go to the charity rally, I would have likely been an instant youtube start as I burn my way down the M4; literally!!!

    Left hand bank, and you can see the fuel pipe mount and the proximity of the earth bonding. (actually, you can see a little fraying on this one in the pic.)
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    Partially blocked fuel line, what you can see is actually part of the rubber in the fuel line folded over itself and restricting the dia. by about 70%.
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    Frayed fuel line
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    Right hand engine bank (upside down sorry) Some good paint stripping going on! These are being redone properly in Feb anyway.
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    Worrying but good save

    Are those OEM lines? I got my car fitted with uprated fuel lines a while back. They're metallic on the outside so can't suffer like those have. Not sure where the indie I used got them from but I could probably find out if you'd like?

    Rubbish blurry photo but could probably get a better one if you like:

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    Wow lucky indeed Adrian 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
    Worrying but good save

    Are those OEM lines? I got my car fitted with uprated fuel lines a while back. They're metallic on the outside so can't suffer like those have. Not sure where the indie I used got them from but I could probably find out if you'd like?

    Rubbish blurry photo but could probably get a better one if you like:
    No their not OEM:
    - as the routing is not correct; it has a 90 elbow of the injection rail, and should be a 180 swept;
    - ends on the OEMs are crimped;
    - and the OEM are S/S braid.

    Easy option would be to get OEM ones, but they are silly money at 360 RH and 300 LH, ex VAT. Why one side is more than the other I have no idea as they look identical in all aspects to me.

    I'll pop to Pirtek today and get them to make me up some in s/s braid, with a 180 swept crimped end on the fuel rail end, and I'll probably just go for adjustable on the fuel filter end as I wont be able to get the relative angles between the two fittings correct enough without a few trips back and forth.

    I'll put up some pictures when I get them.

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    Weren't these a factory recall issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quigs View Post
    Weren't these a factory recall issue?
    On the 355 yes - fuel line could rub on the big hose clamp securing a water hose (after an engine out job, the tendency was to leave the knurled part of the hose clamp too close to the fuel line). After many fires and probably due to the more reactionary Americans, they finally did a factory recall 5,6 or so years back. Might be wrong, but I have never read of a recall for the 348.

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    Nick (pangea) posted some info about 348 recall on Fchat - dont know whether he posted it on here too...??

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...ooklet.516376/

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    Quote Originally Posted by A348W View Post
    No their not OEM:
    - as the routing is not correct; it has a 90 elbow of the injection rail, and should be a 180 swept;
    - ends on the OEMs are crimped;
    - and the OEM are S/S braid.

    Easy option would be to get OEM ones, but they are silly money at 360 RH and 300 LH, ex VAT. Why one side is more than the other I have no idea as they look identical in all aspects to me.

    I'll pop to Pirtek today and get them to make me up some in s/s braid, with a 180 swept crimped end on the fuel rail end, and I'll probably just go for adjustable on the fuel filter end as I wont be able to get the relative angles between the two fittings correct enough without a few trips back and forth.

    I'll put up some pictures when I get them.

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    Emblem had a set of 4 fuel lines made up for mine costing about 200. They're stainless steel braid oem spec. Pirtek would be my 1st port of call as they should do them. Otherwise call Emblem. Friendly bunch at Emblem, and may be able to obtain some for you if you struggle at Pirtek.

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    Wow, close call

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