328 Service And MOT due

[milkshaker0007]

So as most people know I'm not afraid of getting my hands dirty and fairly competent on most things mechanical.

Jobs done myself so far on my little 328
Brakes and fluid flush
All rubber fuel/vacuum hoses changed and many radiators hoses
Anti roll bar bushings (fronts only left to do)
All ignition bits---- new dizzy caps/injectors/rotors/seals/plugs etc
Gearbox fluids and fuel filter 2 years ago

So trying to save a few quid £$$$£ this year and doing all the service myself and my brother in law is doing MOT.
See all parts below(pic)

The owner of my brother in laws garage is a great bloke and will let us use his garage and all equipment and MOT testing station for a contribution towards his tea/coffee/biscuit & bacon sandwich fund:grin:

My question is as this is just a normal garage and not a ferrari specialist should I get my service book stamped by them or just a photographic record with receipts ??
Or get him to knock up a letter head listing jobs done
Or nothing as it's not a specialist ??
We will be doing the following:-

Engine fluids
Gearbox fluids
Plugs fitted
Oil filter
Fuel filter
Air filter
Fit new front sway arm bushings x8
Refurbish starter motor---fit new brush box kit and solenoid

Would be interested to hear your thoughts stamp or no stamp in service book
Garage letterhead detailing jobs done only or
Photographic evidence and receipts only
Or all of above
Cheers

 

[geoffpfc]

So as most people know I'm not afraid of getting my hands dirty and fairly competent on most things mechanical.

Jobs done myself so far on my little 328
Brakes and fluid flush
All rubber fuel/vacuum hoses changed and many radiators hoses
Anti roll bar bushings (fronts only left to do)
All ignition bits---- new dizzy caps/injectors/rotors/seals/plugs etc
Gearbox fluids and fuel filter 2 years ago

So trying to save a few quid £$$$£ this year and doing all the service myself and my brother in law is doing MOT.
See all parts below(pic)

The owner of my brother in laws garage is a great bloke and will let us use his garage and all equipment and MOT testing station for a contribution towards his tea/coffee/biscuit & bacon sandwich fund:grin:

My question is as this is just a normal garage and not a ferrari specialist should I get my service book stamped by them or just a photographic record with receipts ??
Or get him to knock up a letter head listing jobs done
Or nothing as it's not a specialist ??
We will be doing the following:-

Engine fluids
Gearbox fluids
Plugs fitted
Oil filter
Fuel filter
Air filter
Fit new front sway arm bushings x8
Refurbish starter motor---fit new brush box kit and solenoid

Would be interested to hear your thoughts stamp or no stamp in service book
Garage letterhead detailing jobs done only or
Photographic evidence and receipts only
Or all of above
Cheers

If I had access to the facilities that you have :thumbsup: then I would still get a main dealer or specialist indie to carryout a basic service and stamp the book, but carryout any additional work myself, as it seems you have done in the past, this is because a future purchaser would probably want to know that the car has been regularly inspected by a specialist to ensure that any defects have been notified and then rectified.

 

[AndrewE]

Go with your gut....if you trust the garage and believe they know what they are doing then let them do it and provide evidence via headed invoice......

I have a similar issue - new high pressure hoses fitted (supplied free), brake discs, pads and hoses fitted myself, wheels refurbished properly foc - so I have no invoices for any of this. Plus I fitted new carpets and recoloured and refurbished the seats - ditto......am I worried ? Not really as its a keeper ;-)

 

[Nosevi]

Get any evidence you fancy shy of stamping the book - it's not a main dealer or Ferrari Specialist Indie = it's not part of the Ferrari service history. Just the way it is and a non-specialist stamp in the book is one step down from no stamp in some buyers' eyes.

I've been round and round this circle over the last few months, just ask Matt (J70) who I keep pestering about it. There is nothing on the service on my 348 that I can't do, in fact 99% is probably identical to your 328. I've had some good work done by garages and some not so great work, but none has taken anything like the time and care I'd take over a service simply because I'd do it over days rather than hours. Every year I pay a Ferrari garage to do it for one simple reason - I want the stamp. My book is fully stamped up, I have reems of supporting docs from main dealer and Indie and just deciding to do it myself kills that history which in turn has a pretty big detrimental effect on the value (or at least 'saleability') of my car.

The day I decide I can keep my car long term I do the services myself. As there's a reasonable chance she may have to go in 3 or 4 years it just doesn't make sense.

.......unless I say to hell with it and do it myself simply because I want to

 

[Roony]

Paul I've done similar with my 328, kept photos and receipts for parts on all servicing that I have carried out. I've just ensured that the CAMbelt change was done by a specialist and it is stamped as a CAM belt service in the book. If you ever sell the car and you can show a potential buyer all the evidence in a nice folder you will have not problem selling the car..

Any serious buyer would carry out an inspection, and if the car gets a clean bill of health thats what the buyer would want.

So as most people know I'm not afraid of getting my hands dirty and fairly competent on most things mechanical.

Jobs done myself so far on my little 328
Brakes and fluid flush
All rubber fuel/vacuum hoses changed and many radiators hoses
Anti roll bar bushings (fronts only left to do)
All ignition bits---- new dizzy caps/injectors/rotors/seals/plugs etc
Gearbox fluids and fuel filter 2 years ago

So trying to save a few quid £$$$£ this year and doing all the service myself and my brother in law is doing MOT.
See all parts below(pic)

The owner of my brother in laws garage is a great bloke and will let us use his garage and all equipment and MOT testing station for a contribution towards his tea/coffee/biscuit & bacon sandwich fund:grin:

My question is as this is just a normal garage and not a ferrari specialist should I get my service book stamped by them or just a photographic record with receipts ??
Or get him to knock up a letter head listing jobs done
Or nothing as it's not a specialist ??
We will be doing the following:-

Engine fluids
Gearbox fluids
Plugs fitted
Oil filter
Fuel filter
Air filter
Fit new front sway arm bushings x8
Refurbish starter motor---fit new brush box kit and solenoid

Would be interested to hear your thoughts stamp or no stamp in service book
Garage letterhead detailing jobs done only or
Photographic evidence and receipts only
Or all of above
Cheers

 

[Nosevi]

Paul I've done similar with my 328, kept photos and receipts for parts on all servicing that I have carried out. I've just ensured that the CAMbelt change was done by a specialist and it is stamped as a CAM belt service in the book. If you ever sell the car and you can show a potential buyer all the evidence in a nice folder you will have not problem selling the car..

I totally agree. The question I would quite like answered is will it command the same premium as the same car with a FFSH?

I wish it would. I think it wouldn't.

 

[Roony]

I know what you mean.. but I don't think it would on an older classic style car.... I think they are buying the car more that a stamped book.. On a younger car I would agree, service history from a main/specialist is important. but as the car gets older I think its a different matter?

I totally agree. The question I would quite like answered is will it command the same premium as the same car with a FFSH?

I wish it would. I think it wouldn't.

 

[francisn]

With my 36 year old 308GT4 there has been no service book since 1990 (and the previous one was lost).

But I have big file of all that was done in the next 25 years.

Since I bought the car in March 2014 routine fluid changes have been done by myself (and documented) but stuff like belt changes will be done by a specialist (QV).

I don't see any problem with that as far as car value is concerned. After all the car is 36 years old and current condition is much more important than who did what when.

 

[Nosevi]

I know what you mean.. but I don't think it would on an older classic style car.... I think they are buying the car more that a stamped book.. On a younger car I would agree, service history from a main/specialist is important. but as the car gets older I think its a different matter?

Hope you're right. Very much want to go down this route. Just need convincing it won't end up costing me too much

 

[Roony]

If I was buying a 348 I would want to know that the engine had been removed for the belt replacement and other things checked. if the owner could prove that all fluids etc had been changed on regular basis and that any repairs had been done by a competent person I would be
happy!

Oh and just join the owners club before you sell the car!!!! potential buyer always love that!

Hope you're right. Very much want to go down this route. Just need convincing it won't end up costing me too much

 

[milkshaker0007]

Since I bought the car in March 2014 routine fluid changes have been done by myself (and documented) but stuff like belt changes will be done by a specialist (QV).

I don't see any problem with that as far as car value is concerned

Thanks for all the comments
Last year it went to Migliore for its major:- cam belts/hills tension bearings/service/valve adjustments/cam seals as weeping/MOT £1598.
And the last two visits before that for normal servicing at Migliore also, so since I've owned it, it's had three specialist services all stamped up and receipts obtained plus all the work I've done myself, so I would say it's been a well pampered car
I will still get Migloire to do the cam belts/service in next couple of years but I'll do the normal service this year and will let them do it the year after.

I take on board your comments though----I WONT get the book stamped but I will get a job sheet/letter head listing work done and materials used, plus I really enjoy tinkering on the car it's make me happy to know I did that myself and like you said I'll spend more time doing a better job probably as well, plus saving a few Quid in the process ( maybe I have a little Scottish blood in me after all:wink3
Thanks guys

 

[mon the fish]

Lots of photos will help as well, before & after shots - that with a job sheet would really put my mind at rest as a potential buyer

 

[milkshaker0007]

Ok so today was the day for MOT and service
As listed in photo all the parts have been fitted, 10 hours it took me and my bro to do:cry3:
glad I'm not paying for labour I would be well and truly pissed but glad I did it.
We had a few challenging moments doing the front anti roll link arms, getting the new rubber black bushings compressed enough to get them back into the mount was torturous but persistence prevailed eventually.

Next was the starter motor plenty of pics below, I knew from what I'd read on FC is was a pig to get out and guess what? It was because getting the heat shield off there are only three screws but the two of them are on the manifold, one easy to get too but the other you can't see it you can only feel it, we needed an extra extra long extension with a bendy elbow to get the bolt off.
Once off I fitted the new brush box unit, cleaned up the contacts on the armature and fitted the new bushing and solenoid/ greased gears and lightly oiled in 45 mins.
Putting starter back on was much easier:grin:

The bosch starter on mine was a 110 series so the research of parts I had were correct, if anyone wants the numbers give me a shout.

All 8 plugs changed
Oil/fuel/air filters changed
8 litres of engine oil
4 litres of gear box oil with a red line additive added, few copper washers
Loads of de greasing fluid used, about 2 litres wanted a nice shine:grin:
Plus bits and bobs
Knackered now but worth it:grin:

Sorry but couldn't get pictures in sequence but you get the idea

 

[Nosevi]

Good to see, thanks for sharing :thumbsup:

Will you be at Stanford Park tomorrow then?

 

[milkshaker0007]

95% sure I will be Pete :thumbsup:

 

[Nosevi]

Good to see, thanks for sharing :thumbsup:

Will you be at Stanford Park tomorrow then?

I mean Stapleford Park

 

[milkshaker0007]

Did a bit more maintenance on the 328 today following on from last years starter motor refurbishment project I did.

Oil pan leaking from some of the threads around the pan so used an oil sealant on each thread--- now bone dry and my garage floor will be happy.:thumbsup:

Next job was the charging of the car battery from the alternator, it was only kicking out 12.6volts when it should be very close to 14V .

So ordered a replacement regulator for old bosch one that's probably the original from new.

It's now pushing out just over 14 Volts which will keep my battery in good shape and that was with the heaters/lights on full power under load,so very pleased, didn't need to change the slip rings as not worn
See pics for reference

 

[milkshaker0007]

Just following on from previous odd jobs done on the car.
Tonight decided to take off the Oil vapour collector unit ( or what ever Ferrari call it) and see how bad it was inside before I clean it out with hot water and decreasing liquid.

Sadly I forgot to take a picture of it until I cleaned it, I think I was SO shocked it was so clogged up and took it in for deep cleaning straight away.
picture one of those nasty photos on the back of the new cigarette boxes?
You know the ones where they show all the lungs turn black and yellow and full of nasty stuff, that's how it looked:shocked:

Cleaned out and refitted, so all you 308/328 owners take it off and clean it out, hopefully yours won't be as bad as mine, probably never been done Before:hmmm:

Picture shows unit and inside AFTER cleaning

 

[milkshaker0007]

Just adding to this thread.

Another job done.

If some of you remember back on the Cotswold weekender my car was miss firing slightly
Under load from 1-2500 rpm,
got round to finally sorting this week.
It's been just over five years/10,000 plus miles since I replaced caps/rotors/HT leads/extenders.
So stocked up on parts from super performance and replaced them.
Miss fire gone and I can report back it was the forward Bank spark plug extenders that were the main culprit, burnt out ends on two of them.its now running as it should.

Long test drive, cleaned/dried and a whole day of detailing it with my new Mop and polish.

Heating main controls to swop tomorrow.

Haven't seen these for sale anywhere for years, very rare items. Tim Walker came up trumps for me,
cheers

 

[Nosevi]

Good to hear she's sorted :thumbsup: